I may write a separate piece on the phenomenon of Jimmy Dore, a materialist analysis of his brand of YouTube “populist” politics which has yielded him a 2 million dollar mansion in LA’s Studio City, his second LA house, with neighbors like Leonardo DiCaprio and George Clooney and firmly places him in the 1% of the US elite class, as he continues to larp as some downtrodden beleaguered “pothead comedian making a show out of my garage”.
Brihanna Joy Gray has also fed on the lucrative anti-vax trough. She had a guy on who was called out for his sexism, bullying in a detailed Twitter thread by Deepti Gurdasani. She ignored it and had him on again. The anti-vax demographic is passionate and well-to-do. A rich seam, grifters of all hues cannot look past.
Pretty much a perfect summary of Dore. It pains me to see people on the Left defending him. I also agree that Briahna Joy Gray being a good choice. She’s one of the extremely few left media figures who’d leant disappoint. Likely due to her actually being involved in actual politics herself.
A reader got in touch with me with some goods points that I replied to which I think others may find worthwhile as well, so here it is:
Thank you for the very kind words. I agree with you that one key element in understanding Dore is the intentional ambiguity inherent in the "populist" brand of political output, which extends from the media space to political actors like those you mention. There's a slippage from "right-wing populist", which is already a strange category, to just "populist", which functions similarly to "anti-establishment". Trump is the perfect embodiment of how these labels are assigned to a person based purely off vague, off-hand rhetoric, a few sentences taken here and there and glued together. Ignore the totality of his rhetoric and political practice, what he actually pushed for and implement while President, just keep going back to these snippets.
For Dore though there is a secondary aspect as well, namely the fact that he is an actor in the online media space. I said I might end up writing a separate piece on that, but that really is crucial in understanding how a vile depraved grifter cretin like him can be made. The online media space is governed by certain rules, unwritten yet known by everyone operating within it. If you do X, the result will be Y, and they know it, they have to know it in order to successfully position themselves in that space, like Dore has done. And what he did around 2017/2018 is realize that the "populist left" brand had a ceiling, and it wasn't enough in terms of the cash he was getting to buy that third mansion in Florence. So he re-positioned himself. He began putting out content solely critiquing anyone on the broad left, with a particular focus on AOC because she became the new hate figure of deranged right-wingers, and he did the Dave Rubin move, except instead of branding himself as classical liberal who by accident just happens to agree with every right-wing position and boosts them while only shitting on the broad left, Dore stayed with the equally lucrative "populist" brand, wherein the "left" part kept being eroded by him. Don't do that segment on cops, let's say climate change is a hoax but frame it as a WEF project like my MAGA crank audience wants to hear, let's say trans people are weird and creepy, play into all the deranged culture war stuff from the right.
And that's how he ended up where he is today, shouting like a drunken lunatic cunt to Cornel West because he cares too much about trans people and says white supremacy. That's prime content for the audience he has cultivated. They love that shit. I want my Jimmy yelling at these gross radical blacks. Please do it more daddy, please humiliate them more on my show as you suck off Ron DeZionist and Trump and RFK Jr constantly.
Jimmy Dore might very well be one of the most depraved scumbag humans alive, which incidentally is why everyone close to him hates him viscerally. Look at the litany of people who were close friends and co-workers with him who now call him out for the grifter scumbag he is. They all know it.
And I agree with you about Cornel. He is not perfect, as I said in the piece you can critique him from the left, with a coherent principled point. That's fine. I have done it and will do it whenever it's necessary. But in terms of the context of candidates running for higher office, there is zero doubt that he is the most moral, principled actual left populist person who has ever done so, maybe with the exception of Eugene Debs and those figures back then. I have been reading his work for over two decades now, and he is deeply familiar with the socialist and Marxist tradition, has done very good work in the latter, like his excellent " The Ethical Dimensions of Marxist Thought", and has generally taken up the right positions on various issues and, crucially, been part of social movements from Occupy to BLM and union organizing.
But RFK Jr., a decrepit scion of American political royalty who has been a Clintonite his entire adult life until he began this populist rebrand larp backed by right-wing Zionist billionaire cash, he's the guy you suck off as the real anti-establishment hero? The guy who extols the virtues of the free market, is a proud neoliberal, whines about how the government is corrupt so we have to reduce its size, a Blairite-Reagan-Clinton clone who was told to pretend to be against the Ukraine proxy war so he could launder himself as a radical, even though he never said a word about it as the events that lead to it were happening and in fact proudly backed those events as a Clintonite neo-con, he is your hero?
Jimmy Dore is a depraved cunt who has cultivated a cult of cranks and MAGA freaks as his core audience to great personal monetary benefit, and he will keep doing it because of that very reason. Marx's materialist principle that social being determines consciousness is proven correct yet again.
Many interesting points. Didn't know about Jimmy Dore's personal fortune/net worth. My own is maybe $500,000 (a modest house minus some debt, basically). Income is retirement pension/employment insurance. What's yours? I've always considered myself a leftist meandering back and forth somewhere on the Marx-Proudhon axis, or whatever I imagine that to be, having been too busy earning wages to get as educated as I'd wish to be. As such, I'm skeptical of the capitalist/corporatist power structures that spin the narrative yarns we're all to believe (e.g. war is peace via the MIC, "moderate" unemployment and inflation signify a "good" economy, economic growth is theoretically limitless, environmental destructivity is GDP productivity, on and on...). So I'm skeptical of capitalism's medical industrial complex' messaging too. I take your point that organic chemistry, biology/microbiology, ecology are complicated topics, so it would be stupid indeed to be a virus denier, vaccine denier, gene-therapy denier. But it's just as stupid or more to be a blanket affirmer of the narratives that emerge from these industries. If a good socialist doubts the Lockheed-Martin, Boeing, et al's messaging, why would he not doubt that of Pfizer, Moderna, Astra-Zeneca, SinoPharm, et al? Thx.
Dore has continually shifted his position on climate change to the most extreme denialist end of the spectrum and going further than that of Right wing media and jumping on the Greta Thunberg hate train using the excuse "She's 18!" (Fucking pathetic mentality.)
And finally his, again, incoherent criticisms of Noam Chomsky despite his repetition of "manufacturing consent" about 30 a video
Just reminds me again how corrupt and anti democracy the National Democrats are. What if they had had an open fair Presidential Primary in 2024 ?
And the actual Primary (and retro "Caucuses") and debates were equally open to everyone....let's say for sake of argument just 3 people..... Cornel West.....Robert Kennedy......and Kamala Harris..... and Democrats around the country got to hear a full open debate....in theory if you took 10 major policies from each of 3 and blind tested those positions among democratic Primary voters.....I bet re actual policy positions more democratic Primary voters support Cornell West positions than Kamala Harris positions....
We might have got President Cornell West.
Of course if Biden and his advisors had announced his retirement and said he wanted the party to have a open Primary ........
we might have had president Bernie Sanders and vice president Cornell West or Corey Bush or someone else Democrats like more than Kamala Harris who in 2020 was far less popular Among Democrats Caucuses Goers in Iowa Caucuses than Tulsi Gabbard....but dems kicked her out and changed rules to let Michael Bloomberg in so he could and did Redbait Bernie Sanders....comparing him to Soviet Union...after Democrats Changed The Rules To Let him in.....
Oh yeah. I've never seen Jimmy Dore....I skipped some just Dore.....but I heard of him.....?
The antidemocracy Democrats in 2024 selected in truest one man one vote ( Joe Biden's vote) the LEAST POPULAR DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE IN 2020 PRIMARY KAMALA HARRIS WHO WAS SO UNPOPULAR AND UNSUPPORTED SHE DROPPED OUT BEFORE THE IOWA CAUCUSES....WHICH ALMOST NO ONE DID ....CANDIDATES WOULD STAY IN UNTIL AFTER IOWA THEN A BUNCH OF LOW PERFORMERS DROPPED OUT .......imagine how much better Democrats might have done......of course they are so antidemocracy they refused to have a Primary they should have had even if it was Biden....
Jimmy is literally one of the sadest ones .. maga maga maga .. migrants migrants migrants .. not many people have sold their ideology in a more disgusting way ..
I unsubscribed after he tried to spin Musk's back2back "roman salute" as liberal panic mongering. He basically got ratioed on that video in the comments.
The thing is... a lot of the stuff I know about US imperialism, I learned through the Jimmy Dore Show. That's why I'll always have a bit of a soft spot for him.
It's hard to not become a conspiracy theorist, if almost anywhere you look, there's some really depraved f'ed up shite going on.. literally worse than you could have ever imagined.
And one more thing: Fuck AOC. Shitting on that traitor is totally up my ally. When she announced that Harris was trying 24/7 to achieve a ceasefire, I knew she was a lying piece if shit.
Brihanna Joy Gray has also fed on the lucrative anti-vax trough. She had a guy on who was called out for his sexism, bullying in a detailed Twitter thread by Deepti Gurdasani. She ignored it and had him on again. The anti-vax demographic is passionate and well-to-do. A rich seam, grifters of all hues cannot look past.
Pretty much a perfect summary of Dore. It pains me to see people on the Left defending him. I also agree that Briahna Joy Gray being a good choice. She’s one of the extremely few left media figures who’d leant disappoint. Likely due to her actually being involved in actual politics herself.
Hasn’t disappoint*. Sorry for the typo.
A reader got in touch with me with some goods points that I replied to which I think others may find worthwhile as well, so here it is:
Thank you for the very kind words. I agree with you that one key element in understanding Dore is the intentional ambiguity inherent in the "populist" brand of political output, which extends from the media space to political actors like those you mention. There's a slippage from "right-wing populist", which is already a strange category, to just "populist", which functions similarly to "anti-establishment". Trump is the perfect embodiment of how these labels are assigned to a person based purely off vague, off-hand rhetoric, a few sentences taken here and there and glued together. Ignore the totality of his rhetoric and political practice, what he actually pushed for and implement while President, just keep going back to these snippets.
For Dore though there is a secondary aspect as well, namely the fact that he is an actor in the online media space. I said I might end up writing a separate piece on that, but that really is crucial in understanding how a vile depraved grifter cretin like him can be made. The online media space is governed by certain rules, unwritten yet known by everyone operating within it. If you do X, the result will be Y, and they know it, they have to know it in order to successfully position themselves in that space, like Dore has done. And what he did around 2017/2018 is realize that the "populist left" brand had a ceiling, and it wasn't enough in terms of the cash he was getting to buy that third mansion in Florence. So he re-positioned himself. He began putting out content solely critiquing anyone on the broad left, with a particular focus on AOC because she became the new hate figure of deranged right-wingers, and he did the Dave Rubin move, except instead of branding himself as classical liberal who by accident just happens to agree with every right-wing position and boosts them while only shitting on the broad left, Dore stayed with the equally lucrative "populist" brand, wherein the "left" part kept being eroded by him. Don't do that segment on cops, let's say climate change is a hoax but frame it as a WEF project like my MAGA crank audience wants to hear, let's say trans people are weird and creepy, play into all the deranged culture war stuff from the right.
And that's how he ended up where he is today, shouting like a drunken lunatic cunt to Cornel West because he cares too much about trans people and says white supremacy. That's prime content for the audience he has cultivated. They love that shit. I want my Jimmy yelling at these gross radical blacks. Please do it more daddy, please humiliate them more on my show as you suck off Ron DeZionist and Trump and RFK Jr constantly.
Jimmy Dore might very well be one of the most depraved scumbag humans alive, which incidentally is why everyone close to him hates him viscerally. Look at the litany of people who were close friends and co-workers with him who now call him out for the grifter scumbag he is. They all know it.
And I agree with you about Cornel. He is not perfect, as I said in the piece you can critique him from the left, with a coherent principled point. That's fine. I have done it and will do it whenever it's necessary. But in terms of the context of candidates running for higher office, there is zero doubt that he is the most moral, principled actual left populist person who has ever done so, maybe with the exception of Eugene Debs and those figures back then. I have been reading his work for over two decades now, and he is deeply familiar with the socialist and Marxist tradition, has done very good work in the latter, like his excellent " The Ethical Dimensions of Marxist Thought", and has generally taken up the right positions on various issues and, crucially, been part of social movements from Occupy to BLM and union organizing.
But RFK Jr., a decrepit scion of American political royalty who has been a Clintonite his entire adult life until he began this populist rebrand larp backed by right-wing Zionist billionaire cash, he's the guy you suck off as the real anti-establishment hero? The guy who extols the virtues of the free market, is a proud neoliberal, whines about how the government is corrupt so we have to reduce its size, a Blairite-Reagan-Clinton clone who was told to pretend to be against the Ukraine proxy war so he could launder himself as a radical, even though he never said a word about it as the events that lead to it were happening and in fact proudly backed those events as a Clintonite neo-con, he is your hero?
Jimmy Dore is a depraved cunt who has cultivated a cult of cranks and MAGA freaks as his core audience to great personal monetary benefit, and he will keep doing it because of that very reason. Marx's materialist principle that social being determines consciousness is proven correct yet again.
Many interesting points. Didn't know about Jimmy Dore's personal fortune/net worth. My own is maybe $500,000 (a modest house minus some debt, basically). Income is retirement pension/employment insurance. What's yours? I've always considered myself a leftist meandering back and forth somewhere on the Marx-Proudhon axis, or whatever I imagine that to be, having been too busy earning wages to get as educated as I'd wish to be. As such, I'm skeptical of the capitalist/corporatist power structures that spin the narrative yarns we're all to believe (e.g. war is peace via the MIC, "moderate" unemployment and inflation signify a "good" economy, economic growth is theoretically limitless, environmental destructivity is GDP productivity, on and on...). So I'm skeptical of capitalism's medical industrial complex' messaging too. I take your point that organic chemistry, biology/microbiology, ecology are complicated topics, so it would be stupid indeed to be a virus denier, vaccine denier, gene-therapy denier. But it's just as stupid or more to be a blanket affirmer of the narratives that emerge from these industries. If a good socialist doubts the Lockheed-Martin, Boeing, et al's messaging, why would he not doubt that of Pfizer, Moderna, Astra-Zeneca, SinoPharm, et al? Thx.
Old post but relevant.
Dore has continually shifted his position on climate change to the most extreme denialist end of the spectrum and going further than that of Right wing media and jumping on the Greta Thunberg hate train using the excuse "She's 18!" (Fucking pathetic mentality.)
And finally his, again, incoherent criticisms of Noam Chomsky despite his repetition of "manufacturing consent" about 30 a video
Jimmy dore is a horrible gummy cunt.
Dore? He's an antivaxxer, a general conspiracy theorist, and above all, a loathsome Seth Rich conspiracy theorist. https://socraticgadfly.blogspot.com/2021/02/hot-take-on-uncritical-leftists.html
As for Cornel West? There are very legit criticisms of him. You won't find them from Dore, though. You will find them from Joe Kishore of the Socialist Equality Party. https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2023/06/24/west-j24.html
Just reminds me again how corrupt and anti democracy the National Democrats are. What if they had had an open fair Presidential Primary in 2024 ?
And the actual Primary (and retro "Caucuses") and debates were equally open to everyone....let's say for sake of argument just 3 people..... Cornel West.....Robert Kennedy......and Kamala Harris..... and Democrats around the country got to hear a full open debate....in theory if you took 10 major policies from each of 3 and blind tested those positions among democratic Primary voters.....I bet re actual policy positions more democratic Primary voters support Cornell West positions than Kamala Harris positions....
We might have got President Cornell West.
Of course if Biden and his advisors had announced his retirement and said he wanted the party to have a open Primary ........
we might have had president Bernie Sanders and vice president Cornell West or Corey Bush or someone else Democrats like more than Kamala Harris who in 2020 was far less popular Among Democrats Caucuses Goers in Iowa Caucuses than Tulsi Gabbard....but dems kicked her out and changed rules to let Michael Bloomberg in so he could and did Redbait Bernie Sanders....comparing him to Soviet Union...after Democrats Changed The Rules To Let him in.....
Oh yeah. I've never seen Jimmy Dore....I skipped some just Dore.....but I heard of him.....?
The antidemocracy Democrats in 2024 selected in truest one man one vote ( Joe Biden's vote) the LEAST POPULAR DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE IN 2020 PRIMARY KAMALA HARRIS WHO WAS SO UNPOPULAR AND UNSUPPORTED SHE DROPPED OUT BEFORE THE IOWA CAUCUSES....WHICH ALMOST NO ONE DID ....CANDIDATES WOULD STAY IN UNTIL AFTER IOWA THEN A BUNCH OF LOW PERFORMERS DROPPED OUT .......imagine how much better Democrats might have done......of course they are so antidemocracy they refused to have a Primary they should have had even if it was Biden....
https://www.gofunfme.com/f/my-puppy-wants-a-cheeseburger
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He's a funnier version of Naomi Klein, sellout extraordinaire.
Cornell West is for Empire.
He’s mostly right about West.
Jimmy is so wrong about bashing Cornell AND going on about it forever… same as his complaints about his former comedian friends
Jimmy is literally one of the sadest ones .. maga maga maga .. migrants migrants migrants .. not many people have sold their ideology in a more disgusting way ..
I unsubscribed after he tried to spin Musk's back2back "roman salute" as liberal panic mongering. He basically got ratioed on that video in the comments.
The thing is... a lot of the stuff I know about US imperialism, I learned through the Jimmy Dore Show. That's why I'll always have a bit of a soft spot for him.
It's hard to not become a conspiracy theorist, if almost anywhere you look, there's some really depraved f'ed up shite going on.. literally worse than you could have ever imagined.
And one more thing: Fuck AOC. Shitting on that traitor is totally up my ally. When she announced that Harris was trying 24/7 to achieve a ceasefire, I knew she was a lying piece if shit.